I need a retirement fund. The M1888 Gew commission rifle is a Manlicher design and was never produced by Mauser. [13], China also used this rifle extensively during the Qing dynasty and the Republican era. THE LIST IS BY NO MEANS COMPLETE, WE HAVE OVER 1500 STOCKS. It was the German service rifle from 1898 to 1935, when it was replaced by the Karabiner 98k, a shorter weapon using the same basic design. I work in a metal shop so I could just sent the receiver off with a shipment to be heat treated very inexpensively to a Rockwell that I specify. The front action screw actually goes into a hole in the very back of the barrel jacket and if I get a new barrel it might not be the right size to fit the end peice of the barrel jacket over. In 1898 a Mauser design was adopted, the Gewehr 98, which was the culmination of a series of Mauser models in the 1890s. and now, have fun! "I think that crap about bigger bullets not deflectig as much is hooey! Getting a reamer is the hard part. In conclusion old time real hunters understood wild game habits and used to actually stalk up to ranges as close as 25 yards. If it's a big thumper you want then the 9.3x57 is just the ticket. 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Much confusing information has been spread through the years about the German round nose and pointed bullet 7.9 ammunition. Firearms manufactured at sterreichische Waffenfabriksgesellschaft /, harvnb error: no target: CITEREFWessels2000 (, preventing the barrel from directly contacting the stock, Revolutions and interventions in Hungary (191820), 857mm IS cartridge portrait Totgesagte leben lnger, Wild und Hund 11/2006, "ZEIT ONLINE | Lesen Sie zeit.de mit Werbung oder im PUR-Abo. +$43.00 shipping. I have a few in different configuration. A 9.3 x 57 would be a VERY cool large mammal thumper. 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They are both finely made rifles, and some of the Haenels especially so. I really like the idea of the 9.3x57. Bill. I'm thinking something like 8mm rem mag might even be a possibility. In 1886, fifteen years after their defeat by German forces in the Franco-Prussian War, the French Army introduced the new Lebel magazine rifle firing an 8mm high-velocity projectile propelled by the new smokeless powder. In other words, 46,933 ft. lbs. Most had double-set triggers. It should feed well (not sure about length) and I don't think the pressure would be excessive with moderate loads. If you anyone has any suggestions on how I could modify the existing 8x57 barrel to 9.3 I'd love to hear them! Most had half-octagon barrels with full or partial matted ribs, matted receiver ring, folding leaf sights, schnabel fore-ends and elegant turned-down bolt handles. Have also seen them mfg by C.G. To keep pace with the French (who had adopted smokeless powder "small bore" ammunition for their Lebel Model 1886 rifle) the Germans adopted the Gewehr 88 using its own new Patrone 88 cartridge, which was also designed by the German Rifle Commission. I won't shoot modern or mil-surp ammo in it. The compression of the bolt lugs, their seats and the removable bolt head, require headspace attention they seldom get. Sie haben die Wahl", "Bro strzelecka polskiego wojska w wojnie polsko-bolszewickiej", "Karabin i karabinek Mannlicher-Mauser wz.1888", "Firearms of the Irish Civil Wars: Part 2 the Republicans: their Unionist opponents had a much better quantity and variety of arms, but the Republicans put theirs to a lot more use", "M1913 Mannlicher Gew88 Austro Hungarian Rifle", "Brazilian military rifle cartridges part 2: Steyr vs. Mauser and fn wins! Made in 1891 so this is an antique, no FFL/transfer needed. I've done some projects that people with more experience questioned, , and I appreciate the questioning it got me to look for answers to questions I could'nt come up with myself, so i'm not trying to change your mind. This was really a short rifle. I bought one about 5 years ago for 600. This made Germany's rifle, the Mauser Model 1871, obsolete due to its large and slow 11mm round propelled by black powder. 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Learn how your comment data is processed. ._2a172ppKObqWfRHr8eWBKV{-ms-flex-negative:0;flex-shrink:0;margin-right:8px}._39-woRduNuowN7G4JTW4I8{margin-top:12px}._136QdRzXkGKNtSQ-h1fUru{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin:8px 0;width:100%}.r51dfG6q3N-4exmkjHQg_{font-size:10px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:12px;text-transform:uppercase;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center}.r51dfG6q3N-4exmkjHQg_,._2BnLYNBALzjH6p_ollJ-RF{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex}._2BnLYNBALzjH6p_ollJ-RF{margin-left:auto}._1-25VxiIsZFVU88qFh-T8p{padding:0}._2nxyf8XcTi2UZsUInEAcPs._2nxyf8XcTi2UZsUInEAcPs{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetTextColor)} You will find early Mannlichers from Steyr as well as German and Austrian custom makers, and you will find custom-ordered takedown rifles and modified Gewehr 88s. How can I get the barrel rebored for 9.3 bullets? Pictures are too poor for me to tell if it is or not but it looks like it may be. Not familiar with the Enfields as After just over 2 years of collecting Milsurp rifles, I Chauchat aesthetic. I was thinking of how to turn an 8MM. That said, it sounds like you are adamant about using the 88 as a basis for a sporter. Additionally, both the ejector and the extractor that are attached to the bolt head are prone to falling out if care is not taken during disassembly and reassembly. Founded by Carl Gottlieb Haenel in 1840, C.G. Kyle you're fooling with a weapon contrived in black powder era and obselete by WW 1. It has a receiver with a "split bridge" (i.e., the bolt passes through the receiver and locks in front of the rear bridge); a rotating bolt head; and the characteristic Mannlicher-style "packet loading" or "en-bloc" system in which cartridges are loaded into a steel carrier (an en bloc clip) which is inserted into the magazine, where it holds the cartridges in alignment over a spring. Why not use an action that is well-established to be up to the task of a modern cartridge? The Karabiner 88 utilized a different bolt handle, which resembled those found on commercial sporting rifles. If you want to search the archives, I'm fairly certian we may have, If you can figure out how to do this, there are hundreds of tousands of. Shooters planning to use modern 8mm ammunition in a Gewehr 88 slug their bore and chamber as there are four different possible bores and grooves and chamber dimensioning combinations found on the Gewehr 88 rifle. Otheres were thinking in terms of .338 etc. This may be one of those. While the majority were chambered for the standard military 857 cartridge (usually the original .318 bullet, rather than the later .323) they were also offered in pure hunting cartridges like the 957. Its a model 1888 German Commission rifle. 1888 GEW GERMAN COMMISSION GEWEHR 88 Walnut wood STOCK w/rear swivel & frnt bnd . The scope is European, and probably collectible. 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