He then loaded his daughters into his truck along with their mother's body. Yes, too little to late on her end. She was a victim of the Watts Family Murders that occurred on August 13, 2018, in Frederick, Colorado. "They were going to separate. They filed for bankruptcy due to do much debt they had. I mean think about she knew that NO MAN would put up with her except Chris. It is something I myself have done (not proud and definitely not in the same situation of course) but I can see where things can pile up and become hard to face or tell the truth on. A puzzle that is missing many key pieces. [2]The Denver Post jQuery('#footnote_plugin_tooltip_2575_1_2').tooltip({ tip: '#footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_2575_1_2', tipClass: 'footnote_tooltip', effect: 'fade', predelay: 0, fadeInSpeed: 200, delay: 400, fadeOutSpeed: 200, position: 'top right', relative: true, offset: [10, 10], }); Watts Murder Case Being Discussed on Dr. Oz Show. He never ever portrayed anything when it came to those poor little girls. If that were true I dont think he would have killed them as well. At the time of Shanann's death, they had two young daughters, four-year-old Bella and three-year-old Celeste. Shanann Watts Chris Watts familyhttps://www.facebook.com/ShanannWatts/photosCredit: Shanann Watts/Facebook, Chris Wattsdivorcehair jazzSeparationTimeline. Offline, however, the text messages between Shanann and Chris and Shanann and her friends painted a starkly different picture. ", Weeks earlier, while she was in North Carolina visiting her family with daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, she wrote to Chris: l realized during this trip whats missing in our relationship! They had no children from their marriage together and have not communicated in over ten years he estimated. This narrative isnt very nice, and not very popular. Shananns family has said Christopher, 33, confessed to killing his wife and children. Why does everyone on this thread seem so willing to badmouth a victim none of you have met? Shanann Watts and her younger brother, Frankie Rzucek, were raised in Aberdeen, N.C. Chris Watts is also from North Carolina, and he married Shanann Watts in the state back in 2010. Have a great time.". I think she realized especially during her stay in NC that there was something very wrong and the change was likely permanent. The ex states Shanann states she left because domestic violence. IMO they were talking divorce/separation for quite some time, possibly a year. You feel like youre expendable. Taylor, "I am here for you and whatever you need. Shanann Watts appeared to be fighting for her marriage up until she was murdered by her husband Chris Watts.. Just a couple of weeks after the first trailer for American Murder: The Family Next . Chris mother is controlling. Even though the family had issues before their tragic endthey filed for bankruptcy in 2015 friends and neighbors called them the "perfect" family,per The Coloradan. Then he drove her body to a job site at the oil company where he worked. Ruth Glenn, president of the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, said social media allows for individuals to project a moment in time, versus the realities of their lives. That was definitely the plan." In November 2017, Shanann posted a video to her Facebook pageto celebrate their anniversary. Chris likes other people calling the shots. Shanann was trying to make sense of it all. way out by divorcing instead of killing her. Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW. Chris Watts is a textbook Malignant-Covert Somatic Narcissist. And yet we know while this was happening Shanann still wanted to do a gender reveal. She was the same way with her 1st husband. He has changed. I have been truly floored by everything else I have been reading. There was equity in the house but they didnt exactly buy low. Chris had already killed Shanann, four-year-old Bella and three-year-old Celeste on Monday, August 13. They argued and he strangled her. Similar to C&S relationship. I guess what I cant get my mind around is how he moved from wanting out to strangling those little girls and his wife. Maybe she liked him supporting her, but they were going to run out of money again. CW probably didnt believe he was good enough or thought he could do better. Chris was released with pending legal proceedings after he posted $750,000 on December 1. I felt all along there was apparently a rush by the prosecution to get this case brought to closure while ignoring various aspects that to me were very important. I love this man! The word divorce comes up 35 times in the Discovery Documents and just once in the CBI Report. It's no mystery, the Watts marriage was in trouble long before Shan'ann received that critical credit card alert on Saturday night, proving Watts wasn't at the Rockies Games, and suggesting he wasn't eating alone. Shanann was absolutely obsessed with money and the finer things in life. I am so very sorry all of this happened but perhaps it gives pause for thought when making decisions. In addition to the murder charges for Shanann and his daughters, he also pleaded guilty . >>>Firstly because he was having an affair, and secondly because he murdered her. He probably grew up doing whatever she told him to do. He doesnt say but of course, we are only getting Leonards side of the story and we cant hear Shananns. She did tho, threaten him all the time, to take the kids away and he would never see them again. Chris Watts killed his pregnant wife Shanann and their two daughters three years ago, a still-shocking crime that shattered those who thought they knew the picture-perfect young family. Her lifestyle was coming to a screeching halt. When you think about it it makes no sense Shanann would want to rekindle a romantic flame with Watts at Myrtle Beach then invite her parents along (and children). I think he was confused and didnt want to make a strong decision either way, yet wanted out of his marriage and family life. Separating was sort of a trial one when she visited family for 5 weeks, and divorce was push coming to shove in Chriss mind to permanently change his life. Im sure he brought up divorce many times, her Im not so sure. Prosecutors have cited Watts' desire for a fresh start with his mistress, coworker Nichol Kessinger, 30, as his motive in the killings and the Google searches, as well as other facts made public in the documents, provide insight into the state of mind of a man Shanann's father described as a "heartless monster." Yes, she did want to have the good things in life. Quiet people may appear calm but Chris was not quiet inside. Cans Natz. You have some real writing talent. Need help? I love Chris! she wrote. He has Shanann Watts is pictured with her husband, Christopher, and their two daughters, Celeste and Bella. Shananns job and income depended on selling the idea of Thriving. At a later hearing, the bail was set at $5 million, and Chris was required to put down 15% to be released. 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Family (1) Trivia (5) Older sister of Frankie Rzucek. NEVER. But I work my ass off in a cold office every day to pay for it. You put up with 3 impatient, demanding women in the house, she wrote on Instagram in April. He then dumped his children's bodies on an oil site owned by the company he worked for. Shan'ann posted videos onto social media promoting selling Le-Vel's wellness supplement Thrive. On November 3, 2012, Chris and Shanann got married in the Mecklenberg County of North Carolina. Chriss mom is a nasty soul and exhibits the toxic traits of a Narcissist herself, and so it would make sense. Was it weakness on his part or hers? For the kind of woman Shannon was, she wouldnt have just given up on her two children even if Chris had left. Is Shanann the only girlfriend he ever had? But wasnt he eligible for the GI Bill hmmmmm? She would also get child support but its based on income and its possible, only possible, she was making more than he was. Why is it assumed that Shannan is controlling and that Chris hated it? Theres also the reality check that she might not have been able to leave the state if Chris filed for joint custody. Its the underlying current of this entire tragedy. Or to think everything is good but to learn that it isnt. But besides the reference above, from page 2106 of the Discovery Discovery documents, we also know that Shanann herself was openly discussing the prospect of divorce as early as March or April 2018, at least a month before she fell pregnant. Chris killed his family for several reasons, financially he was ruined. Think before you speak. On August 9, Shanann left for a work trip to Arizona and returned the morning of August 13. There she is chatting merrily with her mother about how they may go to the Mediterranean next year and how the water is nicer other places theyve been. Meanwhile Kessinger thought the marriage was over. @Strawheart, how do you know she didnt kill the little girls? Her friend tried to soothe her, to no avail. But the tense silence of pretending everything is fine is not healthy, or helpful. Granted, this is much, much worse than that, but there may be a clue to the criminal psychology in the family dynamics. Remains believed to belong to their two children were later found nearby. Chris did a lot to help around the house yes he was the father of the family. Said, he refused couples counseling., Shanann was expecting a son they planned to name Niko. 80,000 was between both of their salaries. That summer, Chris had gone from a loving husband to a cheater to a killer. He and Shanann began to fight. Being open and honest is the best way to prosper individually and as a couple. She could barely handle the 2 monsters she had, another on the way, and Chris did a lot around the house to help out with the girls, meanwhile she had them in school that cost them 2K per month. People with less than 2 brain cells should not be allowed to comment on public posts. The American cable channel Lifetime released a film called Chris Watts: Confessions of a Killer on January 26, 2020. He was interviewed by many news channels where he pleaded for the return of his family. In an interview with a. , Christopher said he and his wife had an emotional conversation before her disappearance, and he pleaded for her and the kids to come home. That is what makes this case all the more interesting, we had most of their life documented on social media and STILL cant figure it all out. Watts was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage but she never suspected her life was in danger. Likely when Chris did the same thing to her she may have had some insight into herself, that this is what happened with Leonard, which caused her to try her hardest to get Chris to talk to her. Hes the best dad us girls could ask for., Need help? On August 16, the authorities discovered Shananns body buried in a shallow grave nearby, and the childrens bodies were found hidden in the oil tanks. Photo: Facebook, Netflix Shanann was married to a man named Leonard Kim and they got divorced in 2009. And if you dont, youre victim blaming. A Timeline Of Chris And Shanann Watts' Marriage, Shanann Watts worked for a multi-level marketing company. Chris Watts of 'American Murder' is getting love letters in prisonand he's responding to them It was evident in the film that Shanann enjoyed documenting her day-to-day activities for her Facebook followers posting life updates, uploading candid bonding moments with the family, and sharing news about her work. But even most narcissistic sociopaths dont strangle people. Why was their marriage not going well? People divorce and move on with their lives. Thanks Holly, for spending some time thinking and sharing your thoughts on these questions. In Shananns mind she may have convinced herself it all had to do with the nut argument with his parents, then at the end of her life she may have gotten the message that he was cheating, but way way before that. Chris and Shanann were from small towns in North Carolina. Does anyone one have photos of it? There is this notion of delay, postpone, string things out. Shananns worries about her marriage had eaten up her confidence in Chris and their bond together. I love how some people begin their comments with Im not victim blaming BUT or Obviously he should not have done it BUT . At first, Christ had told the police that he did not know where his wife and two daughters were and he hadnt seen his wife since he left for the work at 5:15 am on August 13. No joke. On Aug. 15, 2018, less than a week after his wife and daughters disappeared, Chris Watts failed a polygraph test. Hes the best dad us girls could ask for.. To think that you have been replaced is scary, when you know there isnt a way to fix things anymore. We also know there was a lot of anger and bitterness, especially from Shananns side, over Nut Gate. CW family did it about her from the start without even giving her a chance. Hes a fucking psychopath. Two years later, he is housed at Dodge Correctional Institution, a maximum-security prison, in Waupun, Wisconsin. And once she was done she cut him out of her life. Chris Watts was charged with the murders of Shanann and their daughters Bella and Celeste on Aug. 21, 2018. thats all she cared about period. Shanann was married to a man named Leonard Kim and they got divorced in 2009. If Shanann was a horrible person to some it doesn't mean she killed her children when so much premeditation seems to be at hand. My former brother in law once told me that he let his wife make most of their decisions. Shanann Watts, the Colorado woman who was recently killed along with her two young daughters, was previously married to a man named Chris Watts. and then giving long winded opinions about how it was ultimately her fault. Days before she was murdered by her husband, 34-year-old Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage -- but she never suspected she was in danger. Nickole Utoft Atkinson, Friend, and Colleague of Shanann Watts. IDK just my two-centsit is hard to see in most families b/c not many of us post so openly about our daily lives. She loved dogs and had a dachshund named Dieter. After Shananns death and Chris arrest, Dieter was kept at a friends house and later went to live with her brother, Frankie. The Watts Family Murders became a talk of many talks and news shows; episodes of ABC News television news magazine 20/20, American talk show Dr. Phil, and The Dr. Oz Show featured the story of the massacre. I didnt believe it until reading thru so very many sites and articles like these with comment sections and such. Its no mystery, the Watts marriage was in trouble long before Shanann received that critical credit card alert on Saturday night, proving Watts wasnt at the Rockies Games, and suggesting he wasnt eating alone. In a fit of rage, Chris strangulated Shanann and took the three dead bodies to a remote oil-storage site, Anadarko Petroleum, where he was employed before. But you can see a pattern here, with Shanann Pouring herself into work and not being interested in any of the things he was up to. Chris is an introvert. If she hated him so much, why didnt she leave him? I find it very odd that he did not have girlfriends in high school and prior to meeting Shanann and that we never hear from any of them. should communicate even if it is good or bad information. He was charged with five counts . Choosing his clothes, his meals, his everything. On June 11 . If we assume that she killed the children, why did he not turn her to the police and secretly dumped the bodies of his children that she killed. He seems unable to make and follow through with what he leads both Shanann and Nicole K to believe. I think he did premeditate this, even if it was just in his mind. November 19 saw Chris getting five life sentences: three consecutive and two concurrent, without the possibility of parole; an additional 48 years for the unlawful termination of his wifes pregnancy; 36 years for three charges of tampering with a deceased body. The doc also discusses Shannan's . My relationship with my ex-husband ended up terrible but we divorced and now we are with great other people! I cant come back like this. In 2013, the couple bought a large, five-bedroom home in Frederick, Colorado prior to the birth of their first daughter, Bella. Murder is a way to save the family from the hardships, etc. She was previously married to Chris Watts. Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? Over the summer of 2018, Chris Watts changed. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I agree wholeheartedly that relationships/couples/etc. During the investigation, Shananns purse containing her phone and keys, her car in the garage, and her wedding ring on the couples bed were found. In April 2013, Shanann and Chris moved with her family to Frederic, Colorado, and bought a five-bedroom, four-bathroom house at 2825 Saratoga Trail on a loan of $392,709. In instances such as this, women and children are objects that can be disposed of and that becomes a solution to the problem.. She added that domestic violence does not have to be physical. I think if you go back and look at the Thrive video output it might correlate with when Chris began cheating posting a profile on Tinder and hooking up with Amanda McMahon either Feb. or March 2018. In 2010, she met Chriss Lee Watts, who was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. Hammering away relentlessly. She was making it very difficult to admit to an affair. Why is it assumed that Shannan is controlling and that Chris hated it? The bankruptcy case was closed in October 2015. Psychoanalyse the hell out of it and for those who believe he was in a mentally abusive relationship, have your say but the fact remains that he murdered his children. He was an attorney correct? Six days later, she was dead -- strangled at the hands of her own husband. In the U.S., call 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) for the National Domestic Violence Hotline. I think all the abuse and toxicity of being with Shanann and realizing that someone else would want him and treat him well made him snap. Im sure not uncommon for cheaters. We may never know, but amateur sleuths may want to look at a timeline of their marriage for clues. I dont think the affair and murder had to do with being spineless as I believe he was always capable of this he just never had the gull to stand up for himself before (I mean that loosely and sarcastically)by that I mean that he disengaged and went with the fun new model that also slightly resembled his wife. You spoil us with love an attention! There are strong ideas that point in a direction (multiple directions) but I think it is going to be an accumulation of reasons that ultimately led him to lash out and commit murder. Could ask for., need help, her Im not victim blaming but or Obviously should! 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