Be discreet in relation with a ruler. Ecclesiastes 8:14-15 meaning Although life is mysterious, Solomon has discovered by submitting to the God of Mystery, rather than trying to make sense of the world through human experience, he can enjoy and appreciate the best life has to offer. [1.] (Needing to give such instruction without any self-serving appearance could be part of why Solomon referred to himself as the Preacher throughout the book rather than as king.). 2:24; Ecclesiastes 3:12; Ecclesiastes 3:22; Ecclesiastes 5:17). element of thought mingles with the higher fear of God, to which th FOR THAT SHALL ABIDE WITH HIM OF HIS LABOUR _And this shall borrow Ecclesiastes 2:14; 19952023 All correspondence and questions should be sent to info@ucg.org. The Tyndale commentary notes: To his hurt (Heb[rew]) is not to his own hurt (AV [Authorized or KJV]) but to the hurt of the one under the abuser of power (note on verse 9). $15.99 As low as $8.00. Ecclesiastes 3:12; Ecclesiastes 3:22; Ecclesiastes 5:18, the Epicurean This would also seem to tie in to the warning against turning to wickedness at the end of Ecclesiastes 8:8 Ecclesiastes 8:8There is no man that has power over the spirit to retain the spirit; neither has he power in the day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it.American King James Version. American King James Version, Ecclesiastes 7:19 Ecclesiastes 7:19Wisdom strengthens the wise more than ten mighty men which are in the city.American King James Version). We then come to Ecclesiastes 8:9 Ecclesiastes 8:9All this have I seen, and applied my heart to every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein one man rules over another to his own hurt.American King James Version. their present condition and circumstances, and be cheerful and Though a sinner do evil an hundred times, and his days be prolonged ( Ecclesiastes 8:12 ), Remember he was talking about how he saw that the ungodly man was living a long life, the righteous were dying young and the ungodly were living long. ASV He would have us to take occasion hence, not to charge God with iniquity, but to charge the world with vanity. Yet these words of the Preacher show us the futility and foolishness of a life lived without an eternal perspective. And people begin to misinterpret God's grace and God's long suffering as God's approbation for their actions and for their lives. ( Ecclesiastes 8:5-7 ). I commend joy, he says (Ecclesiastes 8:15 Ecclesiastes 8:15Then I commended mirth, because a man has no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labor the days of his life, which God gives him under the sun.American King James Version), and the word he uses for commend is a Hebrew word for praise (shabach). under the sun the best thing to do is just to eat and drink and be merry ( Ecclesiastes 8:15 ): Because man, that's all she wrote. and who knows the interpretation of a thing? let us eat and drink; for to morrow we die.American King James Version, where Paul used these words negatively, as in Isaiah 22:13 Isaiah 22:13And behold joy and gladness, slaying oxen, and killing sheep, eating flesh, and drinking wine: let us eat and drink; for to morrow we shall die.American King James Version, of those who did not believe in a resurrection and hoped only in this life.] II. This joy will make labor more enjoyable. American King James Version). We don't have that power. But He is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance" ( 2 Peter 3:9 ). which God giveth him under the sun; Ecclesiastes 8 Commentary, this verse-by-verse commentary contain gems of information found nowhere outside the ancient Jewish writings . 1. The place of holiness to which they had come and gone is not clear. 15 Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun. Instead, somewhat surprisingly, he urges us to enjoy life: to eat, drink, and be merry. He saw just men to whom it happened according to the work of the wicked, who, notwithstanding their righteousness, suffered very hard things, and continued long to do so, as if they were to be punished for some great wickedness. A man's wisdom makes his face shine, And the sternness of his face is changed. Though a sinner do evil an hundred times, and his days be prolonged, yet surely I know that it shall be well with them that fear God, which fear before him: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Please enter your email address associated with your Salem All-Pass account, then click Continue. Fear of the Lord is to depart from evil. God's purpose must be They know they have no control over life or death. Some think Solomon speaks of himself, that he was so eager in prosecuting this great enquiry that he could not sleep for thinking of it. because a man hath no better thing under the sun than to [28] Which yet my soul seeks, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found. Some see it as a worthless cause, calamitous outcome or anything the king would not like. The dead would not have been taken to the temple, for that would have been ceremonially defiling. We_ have here an image which will not disgrace Yes, we have a lot of hard work to do. man's present life is under the sun, and is continued as long as it pleases god; though it is but short, rather to be counted by days than years, and is a laborious one; and all that he gets by his labour, enjoyed by him, is to eat and drink cheerfully; and this he may expect to have and continue with him as long as he lives, even food Ecclesiastes 8:15 - Sutcliffe's Commentary on the Old and New Testaments Ecclesiastes 8:1. counsels obedience to the powers that be_,_ and submission to the Our present life is a life under the sun, but we look for the life of the world to come, which will commence and continue when the sun shall be turned into darkness and shine no more. In Solomon's reign the people were very rich, and lived in prosperity, which perhaps made them proud and petulant, and when the taxes were high, though they had enough to pay them with, it is probable that many conducted themselves . [27] Behold, this have I found, said the preacher, counting one by one, to find out the account: Men hardened in sin, because not presently punished; but they shall not escape, but it shall go ill with them, Ecclesiastes 8:11-13; as it doth also sometimes with the righteous, whilst the wicked prosper, Ecclesiastes 8:14. [19] Wisdom strengthens the wise more than ten mighty men which are in the city. CONCLUSION: Heavenly wisdom makes a man a good man,. Dr. Walter Kaiser, whose overall outline weve been following, describes the chapter 8 subsection as follows: The removal of a large proportion of the apparent inequalities in divine providence comes from righteous government. This summary, however, does not appear to be quite accurate. The fear of the LORD prolongs days: but the years of the wicked shall be shortened. in actual life. TEXT 8:14-17 It doesn't matter to God that I'm living an immoral life, because look at all that I have." Cool, courteous, self-possessed, they bear good news or bad, prosperous or adverse fortune, with a proud equanimity. of the greatest virtue and merit: or, by God's providence, who s "SO. THERE IS A VANITY WHICH IS DONE UPON THE EARTH.] And they begin to make fun of the return of Jesus Christ. [11] Now no chastening for the present seems to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to them which are exercised thereby. We must get ready for sudden evils, and especially for sudden death ( v. 6-8 ). Verse 7 in context presents more about the need for discerning the right time and way. HIM IN HIS TOILS THROUGHOUT THE DAYS OF HIS LIFE WHICH GOD HA 14-17 Faith alone can establish the heart in this mixed scene, where One of the common mistakes that people make is that of misinterpreting the nature of God. man, for men to be easy under every providence, satisfied with And one ruling another to that ones own hurt here is evidently a mistranslation. 3. The question in Ecclesiastes isn't about the existence of God; the author is no atheist, and God is always there. That you might fear the LORD your God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command you, you, and your son, and your son's son, all the days of your life; and that your days may be prolonged. 16 When I applied mine heart to know wisdom, and to see the business that is done upon the earth: (for also there is that neither day nor night seeth sleep with his eyes:) 17 Then I beheld all the work of God, that a man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun: because though a man labour to seek it out, yet he shall not find it; yea further; though a wise man think to know it, yet shall he not be able to find it. righteous men to whom it happens ac Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the He had earlier said unto them, "No man takes My life from Me, I give My life" ( John 10:18 ). If moral evil is in view, perhaps the sense is becoming a civil lawbreaker. We come now to the last part of the books third major section, which began in chapter 6, dealing with explaining and applying the plan of God in light of it seeming to be unfair. Item #: 203674. . Neither hath he power in the day of death Or, against the day, that is, to avoid, or delay that day; and there is no discharge As there is in other wars . 14 lives, even food and raiment, and with this he should be content. For the time being we are subject to human rule. eat, and to O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever! Read the Scripture: Ecclesiastes 7:15-8:1 The book of Ecclesiastes is the most exhaustive investigation ever made as to the value and profit of various lifestyles. another world. "It doesn't really matter to God how I live. Wise and good men have, of old, been perplexed with this difficulty, how the prosperity of the wicked and the troubles of the righteous can be reconciled with the holiness and goodness of the God that governs the world. The future is so uncertain. The first part of Ecclesiastes 8:3 Ecclesiastes 8:3Be not hasty to go out of his sight: stand not in an evil thing; for he does whatever pleases him.American King James Versiontells us not to be quick to leave the ruler. which God giveth him under the sun; man's present life is under the sun, and is continued as long as it pleases God; though it is but short, rather to be counted by days than years, and is a laborious one; and all that he gets by his labour, enjoyed by him, is to eat and drink cheerfully; and this he may expect to have and continue with him as long as he lives, even food and raiment, and with this he should be content. and who knows the interpretation of a thing? All this have I seen, and applied my heart to every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein one man rules over another to his own hurt. shall be changed. CONTENTS: Wisdom recommended as an antidote against the temptations Things being so, as was related, Perhaps the locale of a funeral was intendedor, as some suggest, the holy city of Jerusalem. That's a fatal mistake to make. Solomon's pencil. man's present life is under the sun, and is continued as long as I see life moving on. All rights reserved. Qoheleth was the great believer! of it; this the wise man praised and recommended to good men, as Thus the Preacher warns against a capricious desertion of ones post (cf. In this division, dealing with the evidences of the vanity of life, 2. The end of verse 5 and verse 6 say that a wise mans heart discerns time and judgmentor what decision to make and when. Then I commended mirth of 1. [10] For they truly for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. THE BENEFITS OF WHOLESOME RECREATION and cheerfully, with moderation and thankfulness, to enjoy what He is instead, in great mercy, giving everyone more time to repentand He is letting us see how far we will drift without His intervention. . common term of life, they might be thought to live; or if they prolong their days in wickedness, as sometimes they do, Ecclesiastes 7:15; yet their days at longest are but a shadow which declines, and is . He would not have us undertake to give a reason for that which God does, for his way is in the sea and his path in the great waters, past finding out, and therefore we must be contentedly and piously ignorant of the meaning of God's proceedings in the government of the world, Ecclesiastes 8:16; Ecclesiastes 8:17. And thus, it appears that the evil man is getting away with his evil actions, his evil deeds. the WICKED appear to escape judgment and receive blessings. "But it shall not be well with the wicked.". 6 Recall that chapter 5 was the first instance of direct exhortations in the booktelling us to be careful in our approach in coming to worship God, the One in whose hands our lives are and who can help us through the present difficulties. better H2896 sun H8121 eat H398 (H8800) drink H8354 (H8800) merry And, as the end of verse 1 tells us, this wisdom can dispel the gloom and brighten mans otherwise hard looks (Walter Kaiser, Ecclesiastes: Total Life, p. 89). This is not some kind of terror of God, but a profound respect that does include, as with children who love their caring parents, a healthy fear of disappointing and, yes, incurring judgment, recalling that God chastens every son He loves (Hebrews 12:5-11 Hebrews 12:5-11 [5] And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to children, My son, despise not you the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when you are rebuked of him: That's the sum of life for you, so you might as well live it up because you're going to be burning after a while. and who knows the interpretation of a thing? [2.] (see NOTE TO PROVERBS below) It is the and because they had not so much of them: as others; who yet had This present life must be reckoned by days; this life is given us, and the days of it are allotted to us, by the counsel of God, and therefore while it does last we must accommodate ourselves to the will of God and study to answer the ends of life. Ecclesiastes 8:15 KJ21 Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun than to eat and to drink and to be merry, for that shall abide with him from his labor the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun. So, "Though a sinner do evil a hundred times, and his days be prolonged,". Weve seen that what we might assume to be for the best or worst is not necessarily so (6:17:15) and that all bear part in the worlds problemswith no one being innocent and deserving a trouble-free life (Ecclesiastes 7:16-29 Ecclesiastes 7:16-29 [16] Be not righteous over much; neither make yourself over wise: why should you destroy yourself ? He intimates that he had tried for a better, but failed to reach it: "I said, I will be wise, but it was far from me." Be the first to review this product. 3: quid habet amplius homo de universo labore suo quod laborat sub sole. That is a tragic, fatal mistake of misinterpreting God's grace and God's goodness to you. The beginning of verse 5 says that the person who keeps the kings command will experience nothing harmful. This does not mean nothing bad will ever happen to the person. And thus, they give their hearts over to evil because they think that God is too remote to care. THE ONE END OF RIGHTEOUSNESS AND UNRIGHTEOUSNESS. This new Bible commentary is designed to provide 21st-century scholars, pastors, students, and laity an academically competent, readable commentary in the Wesleyan theological tradition. EAT, AND TO DRINK, AND TO BE MERRY. Solomon commended joy, and holy security of mind, arising from confidence in God, because a man has no better thing under the sun, though a good man has much better things above the sun, than soberly and thankfully to use the things of this life according to his rank. No man has any power over the spirit. Who is as the wise man? God's judgment will come, and thus, I surely know it will be well with those that fear God. 1-17. for that shall abide with him of his labor the days of his life, which God gives him under the sun ( Ecclesiastes 8:15 ). Work even when one cannot understand the working of God. So I commended pleasure, for there is nothing good for a man under the sun except to eat and to drink and to be merry, and this will stand by him in his toils throughout the days of his life which God has given him under the sun. It doesn't matter to God that I lie or I steal or whatever because look, I'm blessed. mind, thankfulness for what they have, and a free and comfortab Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the Life is empty. And He is patient and merciful towards us as we struggle to walk in His ways, even despite our many and ongoing failures. These seeming anomalies in the moral government of God are part of sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry._ [22] For oftentimes also your own heart knows that you yourself likewise have cursed others. THE FOLLOWING COMMENTARY COVERS CHAPTER S 1 THROUGH 12. His survey now digresses to consider a wise man's responsibility when When on the cross, it said, "He bowed his head and dismissed His Spirit" ( John 19:30 ). His estimate of the pleasures of the senses is recorded in Ecclesiastes 7:2-6. Who is as the wise man? He would have us not to fret and perplex ourselves about it, or make ourselves uneasy, but cheerfully to enjoy what God has given us in the world, to be content with it and make the best of it, though it be much better with others, and such as we think very unworthy (Ecclesiastes 8:15; Ecclesiastes 8:15): Then I commended joy, a holy security and serenity of mind, arising from a confidence in God, and his power, providence, and promise, because a man has no better thing under the sun (though a good man has much better things above the sun) than to eat and drink, that is, soberly and thankfully to make use of the things of this life according as his rank is, and to be cheerful, whatever happens, for that shall abide with him of his labour. Add To Cart. Matthew Henry Matthew Henry's Complete Commentary - Ecclesiastes 10:4-11. interpretation of a thing?_ In the Vulgate these two questions end the You can't really come to the king and say, "Hey, what are you doing?" 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